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Jobs and Odds

The odds of getting SD cards are extremely low, which makes the entire process a massive grind. For example: Roughly around 20 to 25 stores were hit collectively throughout multiple groups, only receiving 3 SD cards for the next step. 6 banks were robbed, receiving 1 item for the next step.

The expiration dates on the SD cards do not give enough time to do jobs, forcing them to be rushed. The chance you do receive an SD card for the job, you now have 24 hours to hit the job, which in most cases isn’t nearly enough time due to cooldowns, as well as not being able to even queue for the job as there aren't enough units available. 

Examples of expiry time adjustments

House Robberies: 24 hours

Fleeca + Vangelicos: 48 hours

Paleto Bank: 72 hours.

Cop Count

Link Up app jobs, specifically bigger heists, being tied down to available units on cop count makes it nearly impossible to secure the job. Queuing for a job shouldn't be affected due to cop count unless they are already attached to a scene, as many cops are under sub-calls that have nothing to do with crime. 

Trap Houses

Many of the new trap houses are on gang blocks, as well as on people’s properties. If a gang that controls the block also takes control of the trap house, they could have their entire gang to fight for as it could also be considered a block push. 

The owner of a trap house should receive a notification on the phone when someone is attempting to claim it. For example, the local would shoot out a text saying “Hey, someone’s at the trap house!”

Drugs

Bootlegging takes up a large amount of time, making you drive across the map for 10-12 bottles of moonshine only for it to sell for a super low price. The sale price should be bumped up a bit per bottle. 

While selling drugs to locals, there are too many skill checks, and can sometimes be laggy which leads to missing the entire sale.

Boosting

Starting prices on vin scratches should be adjusted a bit lower, as the higher-cost vehicles usually don’t get outbid.

Cargo

The chance of the stacks being taken seems extremely low in many cases, and takes forever to clean a good amount of stacks.

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  • DaysAnarchy

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    Feb 25, 2024

    Not a fan of the SD system really, forces people who cant invest 6+ hours a day to even progress into a weird spot its like the start of wipe all over again

  • suspiciouslystickysock

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    Feb 25, 2024

    This expansion feels like a grinders dream but an average players hell, having to grind every 1-2 days to even get a step up isn't what people want

  • Jonah

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    Feb 25, 2024

    Fuck those the SDs for banks and paletos needed to be soo much more. The SD card system right is complete shit and the cooldowns make it so all these petty jobs are being spam hit because you have to hit another store the next day due to SD's expiring.

    Fleecas: 7-8 Days

    Paleto: 12-14 Days

    Pacific: 18-21 Days

    • .Dream

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      Feb 25, 2024

      I agree they should at least last longer, whole system feels kinda icky it’s only been a week tho so with time it’s ironed out.

  • fall1n1

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    Feb 25, 2024

    Update looked good on trailers but starting to feel like a nightmare.

    Selling drugs is broken

    Cocaine not worth it (selling less than Vicodin, sometime you get no money)

    Black market is not working (don’t get bought items)

    SD card system meh

    House robbery items selling on black market? Way less money rarely sells

    A couple of my good friends stopped playing recently because of all this

  • aldente.

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    Feb 25, 2024

    Hi there;

    The expiration dates on the SD cards do not give enough time to do jobs, forcing them to be rushed. The chance you do receive an SD card for the job, you now have 24 hours to hit the job, which in most cases isn’t nearly enough time due to cooldowns, as well as not being able to even queue for the job as there aren't enough units available. 


    SD Cards now should be giving jobs that last 3-5 days instead of 12-72 hours but have fewer uses between players. Over time, the availability of SD cards will shift to more areas such as the BM and through gangs.

    Link Up app jobs, specifically bigger heists, being tied down to available units on cop count makes it nearly impossible to secure the job. Queuing for a job shouldn't be affected due to cop count unless they are already attached to a scene, as many cops are under sub-calls that have nothing to do with crime. 

    This has actually always been the case in regard to crime flow. With this expansion, you now see what's affecting your job while in queue. Before, it would never show you this information and just have you continue ticking while in queue.

    The cop counts reflect the 'available cops' on duty not attached to a call. This was a change made a long time ago in response to pacing out crime and preventing "burn out" of our police. This was also to lengthen other types of roleplay police may be engaged in as their purpose in the city is not solely for responding to heists, this isn't cops & robbers.

    Your position in the queue still would progress even during an "on hold" job status if there are groups in the queue with other jobs that pass requirements. The main difference here is we've now included a lot more transparency in linkup and also added the ability to simply swap your job to one that's available while maintaining your queue position.

    We are still collecting data on linkup jobs relating to queue times, cooldowns, and job restrictions and will balance around that.

  • .princejay

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    Feb 25, 2024

    Just spent over an hour running cargo to get rid of 10 stacks but i got taxed by the triads so i really only got 3k for over an hour of running stacks.

    I do agree with the que system as well, having a short amount of time to hit the jobs is causing more people to be in que for it not to pop. waiting 4-5 hours to have 1 boost MAYBE pop is crazy

  • chappyy.

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    Feb 26, 2024

    The fact this this update was delayed for months on in to be released in this state is crazy! Has potential maybe but holy this is a nightmare……..

    • Flawws

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      Mar 1, 2024

      The state it's in is fine.

  • Flawws

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    Sep 10, 2024

    • SD cards have seen massive improvements lately, making them a lot more balanced and in a position where it seems people are happy

    • Cop count shouldn’t be a problem anymore, we have made improvements on that front too

    • Traphouses are being worked on

    • Moonshine prices have been bumped up

    • Vin scratch prices are in a balanced spot now

    • Increased the min/max values for washable items