Please revert the recent house changes & heres ideas on how to encourage group activities
Revert the recent house changes and heres a few ideas to solve the problem it seems you guys are trying to solve.
From my understand from the conversation in feedback, the changes were made to "encourage more people to do things as a group".
Why revert?
1. Most criminals are not in favor of this
2. Solo crime is already pretty bland as is. House robberies brought back a lot of criminals and felt very rewarding for completing a hack
3. The tier 3 and above hacks are difficult enough
4. Most criminals already did this as a group. Only a small percentage of those able to complete the hack ran this solo
5. Payouts of houses are very small and doesnt effect the economy from hitting houses solo
6. Hitting houses solo doesnt effect anyone in the city
If we want to encourage more group activities with houses I think putting a stop to solo is the wrong direction and creating an extra incentive for doing it with more people. Similar to how Hunting and fishing works or other legal jobs. The more people, the better pay.
Ideas.
1. Create higher payouts for groups if two or more people are in the house (Not just in linkup app so people cant abuse it)
2. Make the 4th tier and create 5-6 tiers and make them 2+ requirement in linkup app and add value to this for encouragement to do it
3. Can add a cash payout once house is completed if done with a group
4. Instead of having the alarm go off 1 min in. Make it 5-10 mins RNG. This is encourage people to want to clean the house quicker and still allow solo house robberies
Crime has gotten much better recently but is still very low. Drug selling is extremely low, chopping is great but if you take houses away, the only solo thing now that feels rewarding and fun is chopping and it gets old quick.
House robberies being solo was a MAJOR W for people in the community and its balanced very well at its current point. While you may have outliers hitting houses all day. To make changes based off the 1% which ruins the 99% sometimes just a good move in my opinion and this is one of them.
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Someone
Aug 4, 2023
100%. Pointless hitting houses now as it's not worth the risk for a group as it doesn't pay out well. Payout aside, its petty crime that sometimes people wanna do when their groups aren't around. Hopefully changes get reverted.
Anonymous User
Aug 4, 2023
i agree with this ive lost any motivation to fly in as its one of the only hacks im decent at, shouldnt have to do it multiple times per house reward/work ratio is off you then have to pawn them items then wash money its a long process to get going if you only have upto 4hours in city each day
.Dream
Aug 4, 2023
Maybe make it so you have a higher chance to access the big mansions in a group? The constant having to hack and constant alarm going off for no reason is absolutely awful.
sn1p1nx420
Aug 5, 2023
I had more RP before this change as far as the RP that came from hitting houses
kylored
Aug 4, 2023
i so whole heartedly agree with this if you want to push more group content and stuff that gets more people and cops involved then i think it would be more benifietial to look into buffing some group content or reworking slightly some things to incentivize more group things i think houses were ina great spot as a thing to do as busy work when you were waiting on other things like boosts our your crew to come around to do larger jobs and things like that they didn't make a ton of money no one was becoming a millionaire robing houses and it didn't at least seem to me like it was breaking anything but i agree now houses feel really bad to hit and often dont feel worth doing anymore ands i hope the change is reverted or reworked soon as i thought it was in a great spot
Flawws
Aug 14, 2023
Security notifications were implemented and I have bumped up the time it takes for the security to re-activate.
itscocainecody
Aug 14, 2023
Appreciate you listening and hopping in streams to ask for feedback
Anonymous User
Aug 7, 2023
the bare minimum change should be to increase the time between hacks so solo players can do it. having a minute to loot between hacks makes the house take forever and just feels like busywork. havent hit a tier 4 since the change but the timing to get everything out before the change was tight enough, if you have to hack it multiple times it seems impossible to to get everything out before the door locks
Anonymous User
Aug 9, 2023
absolutely revert back
Anonymous User
Aug 13, 2023
Houses robberies currently are alright IMO, however my one complaint is how short of a time it takes for the alarm to come back on - I currently like that we have to keep on top of the house alarm however for solo runners its a bit hard having such little time.
If you are trying to encourage group house robberies, there needs to be a change for this.
My idea suggestion is having Solo House Robberies and Group House Robberies.
Solo Robberies will have the same type of alarm systems per house.
Even the low end houses's should have a longer / harder hack to disable (or make it more several stages in the Skill Check).
Heck, having something on them to fully disable the alarm system if it costs them a bit of cash upfront could be a cool new item to add into the fray to create unique RP or challenges.
Group House Robberies should be a bit rewarding in loot, as it will get divided upon the three and should solely be on bigger houses and warehouses.
These alarms will be just equally difficult.
Another route I would love to see is that they take a longer "process" of a disabling hack, so that whilst the hacker is passing each skill check / alarm math equation / captcha check / disabling the power system / another type of hack you can think of.
Example, the hacker has to disable the power system with a screwdriver and bolt cutters, once down, he has to then re route the cables into the current position (like the Among Us wire game) then has to slowly divert the power else where in the house so the alarm doesn't receive power from the grid, the more the person screws up the quicker it fills up the percentage.
Which bigger houses / warehouses / offices and some local (not 24/7) stores even, the loot is paying a bit more to reward the effort of team work and also, if they get caught by police, they have opportunity to RP it out or come up with a creative idea.
Anonymous User
Aug 13, 2023
-Shinobi Rage
Anonymous User
Aug 13, 2023
Would prefer the time change to be reverted.